Originally Posted by
Captain Tony
Um... that's Karl Marx. Are you really advocating Communism? In defense of management? With an Abraham Lincoln avatar? I'm so confused.
I like this one better:
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." - Abraham Lincoln
No, he was advocating capitalism (I think).
In actuality, labor comes after capital, although independent of it, an hopefully results in profit for the capitalist. When I started my first business, I took money I had saved (capital) from earnings from my job and invested it in tools to perform the functions of my business. While I initially did all the work, I eventually hired labor to use the tools to perform the tasks that I required because of the work I had secured. On some projects, we made money (profit), and on some we did not (losses). Regardless, my intention for opening the business was to make money for myself, not provide jobs for people. Those jobs were necessary to perform the tasks, but were only necessary as long as I made money off of those workers performing those jobs. We are labor. If you want to be paid like management, go in to management, but until someone has actually walked in those shoes, that someone doesn't really have an accurate point of view from which to judge.
Again, I am not advocating concessions.