Originally Posted by
Southerner
I know what the problems are. You and I just disagree on the solution. I prefer to not jump from the frying pan into the fire. But hey, some people need to actually experience their mistakes to learn anything. I'll be happy to tell you "I told you so" a year after ALPA gets voted in.
If we vote ALPA in, it will take at least 2 contracts to get back to where we are right now. It isn't an instant fix. Plus, I figure we've got enough politics, so why add another political group?
So you can give me crap about being junior, but my vote will still cancel yours out.
I see your point. I think you are wrong in the two contract assumption. Check out any of the historical examples of ALPA or union represented pilot groups. The ALPA represented group historical came out better in their first contract in comparison to their pre-union deal. Spirit and most likely Allegant (IBT still in negotiations ) are the most recent examples of this. The bottom line is protections, our PEA's provides us almost nothing- little to no scope protection, no health care protections(as proven by this years gutting of our below average plan we had last year), no retirement protections, no merger protection. The best part is if a group of us have a realistic grievance about a violation of our PEA we get to individually fight it. I don't know about you but I can't afford the legal team that the company can however ALPA/IBT can. I really want this to be my last airline I don't see how that is possible without a CBA.