Originally Posted by
Nevets
My only point is that if they are getting pay raises, regardless of whether its 73% in one year or 24% between 2 years, I find that as a problem when they ask us for concessions. Your disagreement was that it was only 12% pay raise per year and that we all got raises the year that they took a one year pay cut (which they more than made up the following year). That is not fact. Many of us, mostly for those that make the least, FOs, didn't get a pay raise at all. And none of us has gotten a 12% pay raise per year, let alone just keeping up with inflation. So even if we don't skew the numbers (your point), I still see a problem with that regardless of any other point.
What do you disagree with what I said above.
The only thing I disagree with is the corellation between BH's (or managements) pay and ours. They are two separate issues. I see a problem with concessions regardless of what has happened with management pay. If BH had taken a 90% pay cut and we had lost 50,000,000 last quarter I would still believe that we should have a raise, and it isn't because of anything that happened to somebody else. It is because, as professional aviators who have invested great amounts of time and money to qualify us to operate equipment worth 20 million bucks or more where we are responsible for the safety and well being of up to 76 people, we are worth more than we are currently compensated. How much management makes is immaterial.
Are you worth more because somebody else got a raise, or because you are under compensated for who you are and what you can do?