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Old 04-09-2007 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyone
Time to do a little rereading there JV. Take the blinders off, think outside of the box just a little. So using your own logic, they should join the club just because of those who went before them. This is not an agency shop argument. I support the concept of agency shop 100%.

But you are using this agency shop argument for those that either don't want a union on their property, they have been burned by unions in the past, or they are getting what they want through whatever means with their managment. And if this raises YOUR bar, you're complaining?

What I would like to know, is how many B6 pilots were former union members, and if it is a majority, why until now has there been no big push for a union. They should all know the "benefits" of what a union is capable of.

Again, reread some of my posts on this subject. I am in no way anti-union or anti collective bargaining. But if you have a brain cell in that junior varsity brain of yours, you will realize all your flamming, name calling, scab bomb throwing does nothing but show what in the boardrooms, that will be negotiating with YOU (representatives), the thinking will be on how to negotiate with immature union koolaid drinking pilots. I can also give you history where an airline union took such a hardcore stand on wages for a new aircraft (to prove a point) that in the final analysis the airline took less than half of the options for the wide bodied aircraft that they had optioned. Of course you will say, that's the excuse they give. First hand knowledge there bud.

So instead of engaging in rational thinking, just keep calling these guys scabs, guilty of scab thinking, not real pilots, wear sh@$ty uniforms, not professionals etc etc etc etc. So when your union calls for an SOS or such for some grievance the B6 pilots, VX, Skybus, EOS, MaxJet, etal, will just keep on flying. Shouldn't matter to you since they aren't "real pilots" anyway.

And a direct question, asked of you and Major Greenface, who are your employers? If you have the nads to call these guys scabs, have the cajones to say what proud union airline you fly for. Be proud of the fact that ABC airline is union and show your union label.
Once again, Sky...good point. In fact, just guesstamating I would say that something in excess of at least 60% of our pilots are ex ALPA people. Or should I say, not ex, but furloughed, Inactive Members. That is just ALPA. I am sure that there are other union members on the property as well.