Originally Posted by
BigGuns
This entire thread is missing a giant point...
The crew could have had all the right info, all the right database, right charts, LOC or GPS planed.... BUT FATIGUE does screwy things to the human mind and when you are flying a plane from 0300 to 0445 that's a real factor.
Come Jan 2014 UPS will get their "REST RULE CARVE OUT" and my guess is this will not be their last accident like this. I just hope no innocent people on the ground get hurt!!!
I alluded to this earlier
Originally Posted by
satpak77
(non Airbus guy)
1. If autopilot and autothrottles engaged at time of impact, why. Someone said one of the pilots stated runway in sight. Maybe the Airbus can autoland on this type of approach, not sure.
2. Independent of that, if a VASI/PAPI is picked up and followed, in theory, there should be terrain clearance. Even a slight deviation below, that is promptly corrected, should be fine.
3. Tiny footnotes and legalese on charts/etc etc in a dark cockpit, with possibly fatigued crew, I never was fond of that.
I guess we are all asking that, but in different ways
I wonder (and will await the NTSB to conduct the investigation...) if we are over-microscoping this and a more simpler reason was causal, such as fatigued crews having a crash. I am not so sure if PAPI light lens adjustments or color blindness or etc etc had causal effects. Again, I am
not sure. I wonder if a tired crew, mis-interpreted things and their location on the approach, (I almost have to say they had to have, if they impacted on autopilot), due to fatigue and possibly other factors.
Disclaimer: (Did I say this?). I will await the NTSB investigation but I am wondering aloud to provoke discussion (not argument or name calling) amongst fellow professionals.