Originally Posted by shiznit

I wouldn't throw anything out as a negotiator. I'd rather bluff the company out of one of my throwaways in exchange for gettin something that is actually desired by the group. Not tipping my hand on that if possible.

We do agree that getting back toward C2K is the goal, but I think a pre-determined JPWA, followed by an SOT and TOT, followed by an early PWA, coupled with a very short duration; then a couple of scope opportunities, sandwiched with a way to leverage improvements in FTDT, followed by the next round of Sect. 6 has made a LOT of progress in 5-7 years!

Saying "NO" to everything over the last 5-7 years 'felt' realt satisfying but has/had it benefitted AA, LCC, UAL pilots?

I vote for the first method... "Enjoying" the Letter 51 days for an extra 5-6 years while saying no to anything except C2K immediately would have gained us ZERO.

Want in one hand and $&1t in the other and tell me which one fills up first. YMMV

So yes, we disagree on how to get results and improvements.