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Old 08-21-2013 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Fair enough. I know we won't agree, but I appreciate the good exchange.

I openly support ALPA and encourage getting involved when I'm out on the line, but one reality you're going to have to deal with in your second part is that right at half the pilot group (above half of active pilots) has put in a DPA card. Apparently most of those things have been renewed.

This is in no small part to the many missteps that have been made, particularly with the C2012 effort. That alone was worth about 800 cards immediately afterward. ALPA, should they want to remain our bargaining agent, is going to have to seriously look at the way they do things, how they take line pilot input, and how they take ALPA national lawyer input if they want to stop that train coming down the tracks.

The blood is on many of your alpa predecesors' hands, but its up to the current regime to fix. Get on it!
Thanks, we need many more pilots like you out there advocating involvement. We don't always see eye-to-eye but I appreciate how you keep it above board and mostly minimize the drama.

The blood is on the hands of the members (of which we both are and have responsibility to each other)! They vote for the reps and the agreements.... If pilots do not take the time to make sure they have elected quality people to represent them(and recall them if they don't), and then don't take the time to evaluate and vote accordingly then it isn't the acronym's fault!

There are too many pilots who say one thing and expect something different in reality. It's not practical or reasonable to say "you better hit my lofty expectations" while openly doing things that submarine the efforts to meet those expectations and later complaining that your expectations weren't met.

Having lots of pilots around with stickers and bag tags that basically say "MY NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR ME" hurts our leverage and reduces the amount of gains the NC is able to secure for the pilot group. It hurts us collectively and potentially takes money out of OUR pocket. I'm just sick and tired of the DPA's divisive actions, deceit, and outright lies.