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Old 08-30-2013 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I don't know, I vote then it's an Airbus order. I just see A321W written on every ramp I go to now.



I don't doubt for a minute that pay is the #1 issue with pilots.

I'd like more pay too, so, how about let's return to caps and then increase staffing in every category and I can jump from 80% on the 88 to say 70% on the 737 and it's scary trim wheel. I'd make more money. I'm down with that, so i... what? No? Guys just want to fly 100 hours a month? What are we, Continental?

My problem is that if C2012 taught us anything is that we can get a pay raise, no problemo, we just need to figure out how we pay for it. How much more productivity, lower profit sharing and scope concessions do we want to do?

And do we all want to be that guy in the crewroom who says "yeah my wife ran off with the tennis instructor... but on the bright side I got 130 hours of credit on 98 hours of block flying, not bad!" [not made up]

That's exactly correct. We haven't just lost pay, but we've given and incredibly we continue to give productivity away. We are light years away from the part time, well compensated career this used to be. 20 percent pay raises considering how much we all work now is just not worth it. Its called a sell out, something the union should have stood firm against. At some point, we could all just fly FAR max, need doctor notes, take 'vacation' on our days off, give up our pensions and accept cola 'raises', all while permitting wholesale outsourcing of our jobs across the entire spectrum of flying... Then why have a union at all? Wait, we're practically there already!