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Old 08-31-2013 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
What you're describing above is under what conditions ALPA will define an alter ego airline and presumably when they would battle against one. That has nothing to do with what we're talking about here. We're talking about ALPA (Mr. Moak personally) signing a document that actually establishes an alter ego airline.

Carl
Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
And just what airline would that be?

And please tell me you're not talking about Endeavor, which is no different than Comair, ASA, Chataqua, Republic, Skywest, and all the rest that are permitted to fly aircraft under the Delta Connection brand, as permitted (and limited) by our PWA.
Carl,

Pineapple Guy is correct specifically because of the changes in ALPA policy in 1998. Prior to those changes Endeavor clearly would have been defined by our Association as an "alter ego." After those changes, Endeavor (and at the time ASA) would not. It is specifically those changes that resulted in union sanctioned alter ego's which resulted in a lot of our pilots' furloughs.

Then, I ask, would the DPA seek craft and class status on the members of the MEC which were our class and class when we merged. You stated:
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Yes. ...
Carl
In that case the DPA would include the Compass pilots who were, representationally speaking, included in the craft and class of Delta pilots for the purposes of representation when we merged.

I think you forgot them (and you aren't alone in forgetting them).

Anyway, structurally, the DPA has no means of facilitating the kind of industry wide coordination of our interests that is needed to promote our profession.