Originally Posted by
cactiboss
exactly numb nuts, it was the first comprehesive proposal, thats how negotiations work
your group voluntairily torpedoed negotiations, and made sure you would continue to work under loa 93 indefinatelly. So yes sunshine you voluntarily work for much less than the "Kirby" proposal.
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All in one post and you call me numb nuts.
You said it was the first proposal. It was not. We had been negotiating for almost two years.
ALPA left the JCBA talks and I have said that I thought it was a mistake. I told them it was a mistake. I don't think it was a mistake because it kept us from getting a contract, but because we were obligated to negotiate and had we stayed in, and really tried, we would have been able to PROVE how hard it was going to be to get a JCBA with the Nic. After leaving all we had was our opinion.
When USAPA took over they tried to negotiate. They actually thought they could get a JCBA with a DOH list. I always thought they were mutually exclusive and when you guys filed the DFR I knew they were.
I've always said the a good enough "Nic inclusive" contract would pass a vote. I just thought that the series of circumstances, with the great recession being a big one, made that very difficult or impossible.