Originally Posted by
hitimefurl
Good grief. What does it take for you to say on topic. I never said a word about all LOAs being voted on by the pilots.
C2K, LOA 46, LOA51, and C2K were all Contract Votes that's what I was talking about. That and the difference between 62% and 63% isn't that much considering the bankruptcy was in the middle. MEMRAT on the contract is our tool. It's either been used or it hasn't and there's no reason to believe a change in power will change this vote split very much. Almost the same vote 12 years apart has nothing to do with the sale of the product as it does the individual pilots, unless you think that 62% of the pilots are idiots? A perfect vote for management would be 51%. The DPA in it's current form is unprepared to unify the pilot group at all and ALPA needs to reunify the group.
If you want to go down the MEMRAT every LOA path then it needs to start somewhere and it's probably the way MEMRAT started in the first place, by a resolution.
How Purple came off my ignore list, I do not know, but he's been trying to lay down arguments that didn't sound like tantrums, and I've been doing him the courtesy of reading his stuff without automatically disagreeing.
Even though I don't agree with him at all on the DPA/ALPA discussion, I had a similar reaction to your post. If you're going to talk about the strengths of ALPA, or the weaknesses of DPA, you have a lot to work with.
ALPA's approach to MEMRAT is probably not on the top ten.
I've been ready, willing, and able to vote on a lot of significant LOA's, but alas, my participation has not been required. The real lever we have is in electing good reps, and booting them if we're dissatisfied. That's about it. Furthermore, considering the various NDA's, I've been having to trust my reps to make the right choice, even though I can't peek over their shoulder at the data, to confirm they've arrived at the right conclusion.
DPA looks like an inferior product to me. I don't see the plan, and I don't see the point. myALPA comes with a number of better features, but an unlimited MEMRAT plan isn't one of them.