Whoa...hold on a minute pal. You want to start a discussion on how well off UAL was vs CAL? We have just as much pride as you do and had a better operation. UAL now operationally??? IT SUCKS! I am embarrassed to go to work it's that bad. Please tell me why the passengers I fly on CAL metal always say they are thankful it's a CAL plane with CAL employees? You guys may have won the lion share of this battle....you have a long way to go to bring yourselves up to CAL operational standards. Perhaps your attitudes will change with these ill gotten gains. Flail away if you want.