Originally Posted by
meyers9163
Using 99 seems like a silly year to use. You then forget 9/11, age 65, oil price spikes to record highs and a recession. Before that no other time was there such a slap in the face until now. To assume that will happen again and thus force a career at a regional seems unlikely. Possible? I guess but unlikely.
Also the NC has stated in opening talks AA said they could walk away and they'd respect it but 2019 is a hard date. They also told them that AE requested the b scale etc then they gave them what their NC wanted and they ended up saying no. They also told the NC they'll go to Mesa to talk next if PSA declines and there's not a chance to reopen talks later....
Scare tactics? I don't know. I had an opportunity to see this presentation. Its something you must see presented to understand. It in reality is not a paycut unless you surpass 12 years to plan on being at PSA a career. Unlike Pinnacle/Endeavour who had most CAs at 12 years we at PSA do not. Unlike others our rates are blended and we will still make more to fly a larger plane in which our CBA already established.
Oh and the contract has a confirmed 30. It's null and voided if no merger based on the undesirable payrates at USairways as they want to get out top 150 CAs over to Airways and without a MOU at AA thats a matter of math to realize it'd be nearly impossible to break even or take too long at Airways rates....
Again I'm undecided. The presentation is pretty damning..... Also the 48 hires essentially is a 10% year over year guarantee movement. Language is in there to assure that year over year occurs.
Before anyone says I want a number you must remember USAPA and APA contracts unless amended dont allow such. AE had an agreement and thus their 200 guys. Unless in a class one can't accrue seseniority/longevity and I doubt either group would budge on that.
You're not saying anything I didn't already know you'd say. I said all along that huge concessions are coming down the pipe. You argued that I was speculating and didn't know anything. Well here it is pal, and as I predicted, you're on here defending the sh€t out of it. Don't even insult my intelligence by suggesting you haven't made up your mind yet. You're a solid yes vote and you know it. Oh, is my 1999 hire example silly? Well according to your logic non of us will be here in 2019 (the hard date) so what are you worried about? I honestly hope you and others like you never make it to a major. If you're willing to vote for paycuts at an already sh€tty regional, you will definitely be the first one to give it up at a major.