It's better to think of in terms of number of bodies you need below you to hold it than years. A guy with 5 1/2 years may only have 250 pilots junior to him (or roughly 2 percent of the list.)

Currently, the plug in SLC has about 625 below him (or roughly 5% of the list.) If we hire 500 pilots in a year, you're pretty close to holding it within a year.

Also depends on if the base shrinks or grows. A number of folks have been kicked out of the western bases in the last few bids - SLC plug had roughly 400 below him prior to the last bid.