Originally Posted by
Timbo
Why do you seem to get off on putting words into my mouth? I'm a realist. A Realist is an Optimist, with experience.
I wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. I apologize for the poorly phrased question. I was simply asking if any positive announcements in the past resulted in growth?
Originally Posted by
Timbo
The day before 9-11, 2001, Delta had 10,400 pilots on our list. At one time, Delta had 55 L1011's. How many 747's+777's do we have today?

9/11 crushed this profession. It brought it to it's knees. It's unfortunate, but it's reality. I've never denied that.
Originally Posted by
Timbo
All I'm saying is, don't get too spun up over this announcement. Tell me again, when are those new A330's going to be delivered? 2015? Hmm...isn't there something else going on in 2015?? Oh yeah, just in time to negotiate our Next Contract! You don't think we'd want to jeopardize those "Growth Widebodies" do you??
I'm ok with you saying that. And I agree with not getting too spun up. But it's nice to finally hear good news. I've never denied that I can be a overely optimistic at times, but can't we for once acknowledge some good news? Why do we always put a negative spin on it?
And would you agree that your initial post did not imply optimism? What I got out of it was that this would be a purely neutral transaction resulting in no growth. If that wasn't the intent if your statement, then I apologize.
Originally Posted by
Timbo
I think Richard just bought himself some serious negotiating leverage for our next contract.
Perhaps he did. But doesn't marketing control expansions? If these are touted as growth aircraft, wouldn't marketing decide when they're actually needed? I know the board has to approve it, but do they typically drive expansions?
Originally Posted by
Timbo
While we play checkers, Richard plays chess.
I think that will always happen, regardless of who is our CEO. These guys aren't MBAs for nothing. They're smart and they're cunning.