Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Eliminating ALPA is the single biggest thing we could do to help pilots.
So true, yet your group still uses it as the main tactic. A puzzling waste of your time IMO.
Carl
You can twerk a topic like a teetering tightrope walker. Hate is the tool of ALPA??? Really. Eliminating ALPA is
your goal (as stated above), it is not starting an independent union. Those of us that have taken the time to read the documents and the forums on the website know the business model is flawed.
The DPA just sent out an update last month that used the words "angered" "upset" "concerned" "upset (again)" and "worried" in talking about how the TWA trial will affect you financially and all of this a few days after having already writen this:
DPA assured the decision makers that DELTA PILOTS DO NOT BEAR ANY INDIVIDUAL LIABILITY in the damages outcome, a position confirmed publicly by ALPA.
You are consumed with talk about ALPA the hater and ALPA the fear monger yet Tim writes to us using nothing but fear that we do all after he wrote on a public website that he told a bank to get one million dollars (pinky finger) that there was no personal liability. Is he lying to the bank or is he lying to us?
This isn't about hate, it's fundamental flaws in the DPA constitution that make it impossible to open up shop:
- DPA announces dues will be lowered to anywhere between 1%-1.75% depending on where you read the website yet the constitution says they will go up without MEMRAT to 2.25% next year. ALPA can't raise dues today without a vote.
- They say that FPL is bad yet they increased FPL for all volunteers including those that don't get FPL like that today over today's limits and pay for it out of the budget since they will take that money value assigned to the contract and spread it amongst the pilots. No, wait, make that the reps as the FPL is going up the money would go to them not the CBA.
- USAPA payed over $7 million in legal fees to SSM&P in less than 4 years after the vote. SSMP&P is charging 50% of their $250 fee, per their contract, with the rest outstanding after certification, yet the DPA has mysteriously paid a number so small that it can only be called incidental costs from the DPA logs. Where's the legal bill?
- There's a second law firm on the DPA books that has charged more to the DPA than SSM&P so far. Who could that be possible?
- New hires, pilots returning from disability and MILOA can't be reps for 2 years, nor could a pilot from a merged airline because of the 2 year good standing rule
- New hires have to pay a maintenance fee their first year. Not about money, right?

- Look through the USAPA LM2 and see the 6 figure employees they have. You want to know why? That's what good help costs today.
- "A contract which is understandable, enforceable and beneficial to both parties and should not exceed 200 pages." Really? Beneficial to the company? An iron clad 200 pages?
- Voting on everything and everybody. Where will you find the time?
- 25% of the pilots in a block to get a resolution passed vs simply majority at an LEC today? Harder to use the pilots will.
The DPA foundation is cracked and the building plan hasn't been permitted. You can't create a new union from scratch overnight after firing every ALPA volunteer (The DPA Clean House Doctrine) and employee and magically have it up and running on day 2. I know it doesn't matter for you as you already think that no volunteer can think for himself and is controlled by Herndon. That's the insulting part.You claim it's not about the local guys and then say they are all under mind control.
You see hate? Stop looking in the mirror.