Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
Carl,
Well, where do you think express airline negotiations are going to go without ALPA?
They will go in directions that those pilot groups feel is best for those pilot groups.
Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
In the past any time an express carrier tried to tie up a major with their own scope ALPA resisted, even to the point of litigation for nearly a decade. So say you remove ALPA and see what happens.
No, I say remove ALPA and let each pilot group decide what's in their own best interests. To do anything else is a proven modern-day failure for all parties concerned.
Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
I would expect management to want to outsource more & larger units of capacity at every turn.
And by being represented by such a conflicted agent as ALPA, I would expect more examples of caving in to management without MEMRAT, then being told its another scope victory.
Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
Express carriers are going to continue fighting each other, but mostly their managements are going to try to get a piece of the mainline pie.
Undoubtedly true. But without ALPA, the major pilots won't have the back room pressure to keep giving up pieces of the mainline pie.
Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
Without ALPA express carriers will do deals that supersede and conflict with mainline bargaining. I'd say with some certainty every express carrier would have a proposal for 100 to 130 seat flying on the table for C1012+1 day.
Who cares what they want. It only matters what we at the majors allow to be given away.
Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
ALPA at least restrains the more nefarious plots to engage in predatory bargaining.
I see no objective evidence of that whatsoever.
Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
Ironically, my strongest criticism of ALPA this year has been authorization of the Pinnacle Bargaining.
Agreed.
Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
If we had DPA there would be no restraint what so ever on this sort of garbage because we would be in completely separate unions. Pinnacle, or worse, would be the new standard.
Almost correct. If we had DPA, there would not be this garbage at all. DPA would have no incentive at all to do a Pinnacle bargaining deal without MEMRAT.
Carl