We may be there from a constructive engagement standpoint, but I'd argue that we are not there on some other key metrics--after all, every one of SWA's dues dollars stay within SWA's pilot group, and most importantly: their scope is rock solid. They have zero outsourcing.

I'd gladly accept "constructive engagement" in exchange for their scope.

Having said that, things are about to get less "constructive" there going forward, as management moves to a legacy cost (cutting) structure. I think their labor has been put on notice that things will be different from now on.