So, what they were saying was we are going to vote yes on a TA that none of you have seen yet; so you can see what's in it and vote yourself.

The TG MEC had a habit of not releasing any info or bullet points and telling the MEC they had to vote to pass it so the pilots could see it.

Those two reps are just weak Patsy's who can't see that their job it to represent the overwhelming opposition to the TA and vote no. They even admitted the overwhelming opposition was astounding. They just refused to do their job and passed the buck.