Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Wow. You agree with Kingsley that the current movement for an independent union at Delta is a scourge.
That is such an extremist position on your part that I really have no desire to continue this discussion with you. Your agenda now is clear and one that you've tried to hide...until now.
For the record, myself and nobody I know considers ALPA a scourge. I think that those kind of hyperbolic words (condoned by you) actually serves to produce more DPA members...so the floor is yours and J29's etc.
Over and out.
Carl
OK, Carl, that's your prerogative. For my part, I prefer not to personalize this debate. I think going after the
poster is usually a sign of impotence when it comes to attacking the
argument.
Using the definition of "scourge" provided by you, I agree that
the organization does great harm to the group in terms of leverage for the Delta pilots, because we are lingering way beyond the time when this needed to be settled. A DPA that tries is fair, a DPA that fails to meet it's objectives but drags this thing three years further, is certainly a scourge,
in terms of strategy and leadership.
On the other hand, I also believe KR's message is incomplete. I think the best, and most lasting impact of the DPA effort should be meaningful soul-searching, yielding a more basic advocacy for pilot issues, and better communication.
In terms of individuals supporting their preferred agent, I agree that we need to be civil. There is plenty of evidence on APC that we haven't been, but I'm trying to make this discussion more meaningful. We are talking about convincing lurkers on the basis of our respective arguments. So, yes, KR called the DPA a scourge. We all got the letter. What else do we have, that's actually compelling?