Originally Posted by
GoCats67
The windfall comment is what I was talking about. You look at it as a windfall for the UA pilots because you believe that where you are in 2013 is where you would have been without this merger. I think that is pure fantasy. Fortunately for me, what has ACTUALLY happened with the flying supports my point of view.
Without this merger the furloughed United pilots would all be back working at United (albeit a merged UA / US)
Without this merger the CAL flying would be lower than it was pre-merger and likely CAL pilots would be on furlough.
So, the real windfall of this whole process is the 3.5 years of bidding the CAL pilots have received to fly airplanes on routes they never would have flown had it not been for this merger.
The ISL is done and now we have to move forward, which I am going to do, but to describe the results as a windfall for the UA furloughees, denies the underlying reasons for everything that happened up to the point that the ISL was announced.
The question was why did UCH create jobs at s-CAL and not s-UAL ... Again, that doesn't matter because the arbs dictated that we in effect share everything post MAD. I have made ZERO reference to relative position pre and/or post merger, nor made any comment w/reference to the fairness or equitability of the award. Simply, in reference to hundreds of arbitrations of the past decades, rarely, almost never, have active pilots been integrated above or with active pilots ... your own MC/MEC characterized the award as "unprecedented" ... any equity advantage a CAL guy had at MAD was taken and given to the UAL guys to pay for this "unprecedented" award ... call it what ever you want, but history clearly shows the UAL furloughed pilots were treated way differently than almost everyone of their predecessors in ALPA history.