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Old 09-12-2013 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Arrogance or naivete? I'm not sure which is scarier.

You are seriously underestimating the amount of work that the 600+ Delta pilot volunteers do every day if you think it will be "easy" or "seamless."
Not at all. But you're seriously overestimating the number of those 600+ that will quit because the name on their lanyard changes. Most will want to at least have the opportunity to continue in those roles, because most of them feel they work for Delta pilots...not ALPA.

Originally Posted by LeineLodge
If you would recognize the challenges of re-inventing the wheel, and lay out a plan for working through them, then you would be off to a much better start. As it is, you are making promises that you, without question, will not be able to keep.
Key to the ALPA continuing fear campaign is to characterize this as reinventing the wheel. How did APA, IPA, SWAPA etc do it without ALPA? How did they survive?

Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Let's apply the same logic to you and all the other "experts" that DPA has amassed. If you are only concerned about the Delta pilots (not DPA) then why aren't you actively participating in your union? You say you are currently unified behind ALPA - but it's clear that you're talking out both sides of your mouth.
I am actively participating in every way I can. Learning, advocating and voting.

Originally Posted by LeineLodge
We can agree here. Many of them are already serving the Delta pilots every day.
Indeed they are. And many feel they work for Delta pilots...not ALPA

Originally Posted by LeineLodge
Just think how much more we could accomplish if you'd back up your talk of unity with action.
I do everything I possibly can. But how much more could we accomplish if DALPA didn't ignore survey results, then hide those results from us? What about if DALPA actually grieved something as opposed to running from them claiming the language (that they wrote) is too weak to defend? How much could we accomplish if the MEC administrators came to our elected reps and asked for guidance from those reps instead of bringing them a TA that was already signed by the negotiators?

Carl
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