Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
You don't want ppl to judge DPA on liking the TA to a Chinese Forced, what again? You don't want pilots to vote on DPA because of its current leader? You don't want people to judge DPA on the fact they cannot even fill their committee structure with "5500" cards, but you judge a very well written Chairman's letter on one word? That's level handed isn't it.
We don't have a DPA leader because the membership hasn't voted for one yet. We do have a DALPA leader...you voted him in. He said what he said. People can decide for themselves what it meant.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
On top of it, its indicative of the fact that it was directed at the organization and not pilots, but that did not work for you so now terming it as an attack on pilots and frankly playing the victim.
Again, people can decide for themselves.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
You want results, the letter from Jerry, is the same old talking points and every one wants that, but wants do not equate to results without a collective effort on a global, national and local focus.
I know your opinion is only ALPA can provide that. Your opinion is only worth one vote in this debate however.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
If there are talking points I am not reading them. The same points that were true then are true today. You still are not listening. DPA is using emotion to get cards. Emotion does not yield results at the table, you know that. Emotions gain cards in a card count, and its a great marketing campaign but not much else.
Of course you're reading talking points. They're right out of ALPA. I remember getting a copy way back when DPA first started. One of the key words to use was "emotional".
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
ALPA has been positing factual retorts, finally. Now the retort is don't retort show me results, when the results are there, it will be about the process, and when the process finally morphs as direct pilot input dictates it, it will be about something else. You are going after emotions and emotional reactions refuse to look at facts. If facts were all that mattered, we would not even be discussing DPA. Pilots want more, don't look at the industry, and respond by getting ****ed and picking the easiest target; ALPA and sending ALPA a message but dropping a card which makes em feel better, but solves nothing but moving us closer to a vote and a possible train wreck for our careers.
I've also reported facts ACL. 6 of them in one post earlier. Those are the facts that DALPA refuses to face. Instead they just pretend it never happened, and keep repeating the talking points as you've done here with such loyalty. You're not going to win this if you don't face up to what's been done.
Carl