Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
Carl,
Don't intend to answer for ACL, but I am pretty sure he is going to state it is a bit simplistic and unrealistic to make such an absolute statement, no matter how good it feels.
We have international codeshare, we have joint ventures and we have permitted flying. Depending on how one parses definitions all of those might be inferred to be "Delta flying." Yet, if we were to simply demand "no" it would not happen (as American just proved) and could even cost us some Delta jobs due to reductions across our highly integrated network.
Anyone in any position of responsibility is going to insist on seeing a real proposal, considering pilot input, vetting that proposal themselves and with subject matter experts, then they will present a well considered response, or counter proposal. Besides no one Delta pilot can make a statement on behalf of the Delta pilots. Obviously there is a process to follow and 12,000 other opinions to consider.
I'll take that as a no, you can't support that kind of a letter stating the unambiguous opinion and desires of the MEC.
Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
If you ask the question differently, you are more likely to get the desired response. Here, let me try:
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Hey ACL,
You want Delta pilots to perform all Delta flying?
Do you support sunsetting all agreements that outsource Delta jobs?
Do you want to reduce outsourcing?
That's nowhere near strong enough and that is one of DALPA's disconnects with its members. How could any elected official not agree with a letter stating such a unified opinion and set of goals? The fact that DALPA doesn't agree with this is a big part of the problem.
Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
Do you think C2012 was a step in the right direction on Section 1 when you consider the return of mainline flying, hiring mainline pilots, reduction in outsourced block hours and ASM AND VERY IMPORTANTLY improved Joint Venture language?
Sigh.
We haven't even measured whether mainline flying has returned. That won't happen until January 2014. We haven't hired anyone yet...and IF we do, it won't come close to replacing retirements. Block hour ratios won't even be measured until Jan 2014. Improved Joint Venture language Bar? Seriously? Like our Atlantic JV percentage guarantees?
Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
Do you think we should reverse the 1998 changes to ALPA's Merger and Fragmentation policies at the BOD?
Yes.
Carl