I see a lot of talk about not doing standups here but no solutions. We currently have layovers that we do that aren't legal anymore. I remember doing the ATL-PTY-ATL that had 9 or less hours of layover time. The new regs require 8 hours at the hotel and a 10 hour break which can include the van ride. If you can't layover one crew on a short layover how do you fix the rotation if you refuse standups? 35 layovers in Panama might be cool, but that's not my idea of productive unless they're going to pay me for it