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Old 09-19-2013 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
that would be interesting. just as an example say we had "won" in 2012 the right to sell their vacations and fly. some go balistic on here and DALPA says "fine, here you go here's the survey results and 55% of the pilot group had demanded just that and it was a legit "win."

what would you say if you were in disagreement? "Well if that's what the pilots wanted, I guess I should shut up."

Would that be the wise way to handle that? Should you lay down your convictions because you lose a vote?

I don't think it is.
That's not what I am saying really. There were some things in the contract that I don't agree with either. Just because I am a cheerleading koolaid drinking dALPA apologist (I am sure there are more) doesn't mean that I am totally satisfied with the contract. It does no good to wax nostalgic on how great things were in 2002 or at NWA or when airplanes still had propellers and round dials, and remain dissatisfied and bitter about it on an ongoing basis.

Here's another way to think about it, and I don't care whether or not you do, but I wish you would at least consider this: The government is continually throwing up roadblocks to business doing business. Case in point, the AMR/LCC merger. What do they then do? Do they continually cry about how it would be so much better if they were merged (and here's the salient point) Or do they look for ways to make it better and work going forward?

We can't change what has happened. We as line dogs really don't know WHY they happened the way they happened because we weren't in the room. We either trust our reps or we don't to do their jobs.

What I hear from the pastry shop is loud and clear: They don't trust their reps. They'll deny it, but that is the base line. We have had a significant turnover yet they are still assigning blame to those folks for C12. Point of fact, that those advocating alternate representation have another agenda. TC's is to burn down the house. That or he has apparently found the Holy Grail. Carl has something else besides a better payrate than he has EVER seen and a fully funded pension. Neither one has YOUR best interest at heart. If you believe I am wrong, send in a card. But I beg you to do so thinking about what YOUR best interest is and who is in the best position to really deliver on that.

/rant#2