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Old 09-19-2013 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Elvis90
I don't think I've called anyone a "cheerleader" or "apologist", nor have I used the epithet "donut". TC and DPA aside, I can be critical of our own union's shortcomings. I think honesty and integrity are the most important aspect of any organization, whether a company or a union. I think as scambo has suggested, the survey results would demonstrate how far our contract fell short of expectations. The original reason for not making the results public was that we were in negotiations. We're well past that now. I would have far more respect for our union if they simply showed us the results, and stated perhaps that our initial goals were out of reach for any representative organization. My intent was not to disparage you BTW - I'm opinionated as well and am glad to see a variety of opinions here.
Fair enough, and I apologize for taking your post the wrong way. I still fail to see any benefit in making the results public other than postmortem curiosity. While expectations might have not been met for some or even many, there is nothing at all that the survey would provide that would indicate they COULD have been met in negotiations. There is no upside IMHO. I prefer to move on and look for leverage to exploit in the upcoming negotiations. I think a Virgin JV and $2.3B in profit are a pretty good start, but DPA isn't helping with the sorely needed unity that will be necessary, but then again, that just might be Caplinger's goal.