Originally Posted by
PeopleMover90
I beg your pardon, but most folks will make MORE. Quicker upgrade. We get a raise too- we get the airplanes at the negotiated -900/175 rate. So unless you are a year 11 captain getting capped, or similar scenario.... You're wrong. Or you can re word what you're saying to take the caps into account by those it'll affect. But if you aren't affected by a cap, most FOs are looking at gaining tens of thousands of dollars due to upgrade. We are currently stagnant as anything. 0 movement.
show us where in your TA is says these are additional airframes over and above what you have now? You can't because it doesn't say that; that's the impression management wants you to have... they did the same BS at Eagle.
The reality is, a large portion of your pilots will be leaving to go to mainline companies. There is not an endless supply of new hires to fill your seats.
They want more efficient jets (larger) that can carry the same ASM's they do now with less frequency, and therefore fewer required pilots.
You really need to wake up. Regionals are going to shrink. There is no way around that. As companies switch to larger airframes with less frequency the mid-senior guys will all be leaving to mainline jobs. This allows them to shrink the company without a single furlough. It also allows them to provide career progression programs to make you guys think you're getting something, when the reality is you'll be able to have career progression anyway as mainlines start sucking up regional pilots.
To tell your FO's that the TA will help them upgrade faster is an outright lie. You should be ashamed of yourself.
a raise? sure... we'll give you 1 dollar but will raise your insurance 4 dollars, then after you have signed we will interpret the loose language differently, and wait to go to arbitration where we can settle between what you say it is, and what we say it is... meaning the company gets to gain a bit more on every point. They use arbitration as a second bit at the negotiations apple.
You sir, are the classic example of why pilots shouldn't do contracts. If you haven't read the letter your union president wrote to the Eagle pilots; you really should... it may open your eyes to what your union thinks of your job, and what you're worth. You're just an apprentice after all... or didn't you know that?
Last, you guys have a contract already. Your company is very profitable. If you can't get raises and better work rules under those conditions... then when will you ever? Taking concessions outside of section six, for a profitable company is the most foolish thing I've ever heard of a pilot group doing. Please do not come to a mainline job and infect our pilot group with weak willed pilots with no fortitude to hold the line.