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Old 09-20-2013 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Just because you keep saying it doesn't mean it's true!

1. C2012 was NOT 'cost neutral'to the Delta pilots.
Shiznit, your playing with words doesn't change the facts. Since Delta pilots aren't cutting the checks for C2012, there couldn't possibly be any cost to Delta pilots, neutral or otherwise. C2012 was a cost neutral contract to Delta. Meaning every gain we got in the contract was fully funded by cuts in other areas. That's what our union brought us to ratify before Section 6 even began during a hugely profitable year for Delta. It's not my opinion, it's Richard and Ed's opinion.

Originally Posted by shiznit
2. Delta is not making truly 'record profits' yet.
So that's why our MEC brought us a cost neutral TA to sign. Delta's profits weren't "truly" record. [face palm]

Originally Posted by shiznit
Delta was still losing money in the winter quarter when C2012 was negotiated.
Delta 2010 profit=$593 million. 2011 profit=$854 million. 2012 profit=$1.1 billion.

This is the kind of silly spin that makes some of you MEC led guys so lacking in credibility. You talk about a winter quarter in a year where we made over a billion dollars. Spin-credible!

Originally Posted by shiznit
All Delta pilots rally and show tangible support of their MEC and NC.
Your MEC handlers haven't earned that kind of blind trust Shiznit. The process followed with the last TA was inexcusable. This new MEC has done the right thing by voting out the really bad actors in the MEC administration who were responsible for it, but trust is a long way off.

Carl