Originally Posted by
Chrisw
You are correct.
Not helping anyone but mgmt? Lets say you succeed in preventing anyone from ever going to silver and the place goes under and puts everyone here on the streets would you be happy your former brothers are unemployed? Sure we deserve better. Everyone does. I still believe I will upgrade sooner here than starting over at any other airline in the country and that is what I need to get a job I am proud of. I don't ask that people stop speaking truth. Truth is education for everyone else out there looking for employment. You can choose to comment or not as that is your choice. We need FO's for upgrades to happen. We all do. That is all I care about. 2 or 3 upgrade classes and I will be one of those people in out station bases complaining about QOL. I don't ask that you be part of the solution just not the problem. If you care not about anyone you used to work with then do what you will that's your choice.
Let me sum things up here. Out station basing sucks. Lines at these bases are not commutable. Days off at these and other bases are too few. Pay is always inaccurate when payroll reports come out and yes ALWAYS inaccurate. We are paid less on the saabs than the previous owners of the aircraft. Management knows the issues and doesn't care. There is a genuine bad attitude from all of management towards pilots. We are all treated like soulless numbers. Our CP worked hard early on to earn a reputation that rivals Hitler. Did I get it all? Things of this nature merrit mature discussion. I am ok with discussions, but if someone comes on here with questions about possibly applying let them ask and give accurate informative answers not condescending rhetoric. I need someone to take my seat over.
Your summation is on point. May I add one more factor that kept gnawing at my soul: pride. I never felt proud to fly for Silver. It's an airline with multiple personality disorder. The paint scheme says Silver but most of the operational practices and the upper half of the seniority list is Gulfstream. I am against Gulfstream and all their old ways with every fiber in my body. I took a chance coming to Silver- I was told it was a new airline purchased from the assets of GIA- but that's not true at all. Flying with the captains that paid to play at GIA is SCARY. Its not true of all of them, but most of the lifers are just plain brutal when it comes to flying skills and good technique. Thus, I never felt proud climbing aboard the Saab that smells like poop with a brand new FA who is fresh off IOE. I never felt proud teaching captains how to use a FSS or when we can descend on an instrument approach. I never felt proud asking for a ride when jumpseating on another carrier and saying I worked for Silver. I wish the current pilots success with the upgrades and job security. However, for me, I need something more. I need to be proud of the company I sacrifice and devote the majority of my time to. Good luck.