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TANSTAAFL
And 85% over 0% is what?
Because there are still unknown variables. No one is claiming the Asia landscape is not changing. ALPA is confusing land as soon as possible with land as soon as practical. We are diverting and having someone else take our pax onward. Almost literally.
Thought we had at least ten years
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Not at all. I simply see us having more time than getting it done yesterday, this is as good as we'll get, 85% gain in Asia flying. Take a few deep breaths. All the company did was say we weren't going to be in compliance. We offered this up and now it's the typical spin on how we saved the world and careers of DAL pilots.
Nothing of the sort, it's simply not worthy of a Red Emergency. Thank you for your usual polite rational.
Let me know your talking points for when they start displacing off the wide bodies and it waterfalls throughout the seniority list while we loose all the beach markets and total system block hours remain constant but DAL pilots are flying 15% less.
Well, as usual you don't make any sense. I have no talking points. Here is the situation we have today. Delta must have some change to the status quo soon. Either we need to extend the relief for the 316 limitation or Delta needs to back out of their NRT beyond code shares. For us, it is an asymmetric condition; we will never do those code share flights but for Delta it makes them some money. Delta will not start flying more slots into NRT just to keep the code shares it is not worth it.
So for us, we can either watch the code shares go away or try to get something for allowing them to continue. We have no block hour protection now. 85% will be an improvement. It is just people like you try to frame it as if we are "giving up" 15% which is flat out wrong. For Delta, this is ceding some amount of control over their capacity. There is no way they will lock in at 100% because that would give them no options if Fukushima blows up or if Godzilla attacks Tokyo or whatever crazy thing is the next to happen.
It comes down to a simple trade. Is it worth it to Delta to cede some control over their capacity (85%) in order to keep the code shares? How much more would they give for 15 pax a day in a system that is now over 150,000,000 per year?
For us is it worth it to allow the code shares to continue in order to have some backstop protections in the Pacific, protections we do not have today?
So you can frame it as "what do I say when all the wide bodies go away" and that is not an emotional argument, but if I correct your misrepresentation of the new protections it is emotional. Got it. For everyone else, realize that both sides have options, not just us, and you need to weigh each sides options with the plusses and minuses of each path. All this emotional baggage is just political BS and does nothing to help analyze which choice is best for us.