Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
In the end, you have to weigh the cost/benefits of each path. In this LOA I see the advantage to a deal is gaining a backstop block hour protection in the Pacific.
And that "backstop block hour protection" will never get worse right alfa? Our union will never renegotiate it lower...right?
Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
The disadvantage is letting Delta continue to code share with 15 pax a day out of NRT. Which of those is more important to you?
And the code share will NEVER grow beyond 15 passengers per day right alfa? No matter what, DALPA would never agree to make it 16?
Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
The company sees the advantage in gaining the revenue from 15 pax a day out of NRT. They see the disadvantage in ceding control over capacity in the Pacific. Which of those is more important them? Next, at what point will they tip over and choose the path of no deal? They have that option and if you assume they don't then you are just lying to yourself. So in determining the tipping point, should you listen to your negotiators, who have lived this agreement for months or just an Internet blowhard that makes up whatever scenario suits them best? Don't forget that there are professional negotiators with decades of experience also in the room.
This is so patently silly it's almost beyond belief. Management is doing all this for 15 passengers per day. [insert fact palm].
Problem is, I know you know better alfa. I know you know management sees this as a major way to replace the presence of Delta pilots in NRT. I just don't know what your incentive is to want this.
Originally Posted by
alfaromeo
To me, the option of blustery and bloviation is complete surrender. It might make the bloviator look good to the forum crowd, but you have doomed your pilots to status quo. If you don't believe me, then look at USAPA. The last contract change at US Airways was in 2004. Look at their contract. But hey, they talk a good game. Maybe for you fighting words and reps making themselves look good give you all the compensation you need. I prefer cash myself. Who is delivering the cash and who is delivering the bull crap by the boat load?
Amazing. If we don't agree to be "doomed to the status quo" as your spin states, then we're nothing but USAPA.
Translation: Alfaromeo has no argument left here at all. None.
Carl