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Old 09-25-2013, 09:27 AM
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pagey
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Originally Posted by seafeye View Post
And you need to read the TA.
The Union is outright lying to you about this TA. I don't know what they have to gain but it has divided the pilot group.
Our new current contract will be amendable in 5 years. With this TA, it extends the pay rates for an additional 5 years. THATS 10 years at concessionary rates!!! WT F?
F/O's will cap out at year 3-4 pay.
Captains will cap out at year 12 pay.
Now ordinarily this would be fine if everyone stopped at year 12. But they won't. The senior pilots will keep their 18 year rate. It can be as much as $20k/year. For a 10 year Captain today it would almost be 1/2 million dollar loss if you include 401k.

The TA also doesn't say if the airplanes will be growth or not.
Without growth, f/o's get nothing. No faster upgrade, no movement, nothing.
Worse yet the company can replace 2 200's for 1 900.
Reserve Captains get downgraded and senior f/o's are in the right seat for 10 years.

Don't think it can't happen?
Prove to me that the airplanes are growth.
Prove to me that every f/o on property will upgrade.

This TA is a horrible horrible idea. Our MEC will be fighting for his job when the dust settles.
Ok????

All I did was look at our current contract and post the information.
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