Originally Posted by
IBPilot
hey rookie, come back when you are done flying traffic watch and actually have enough hours to get hired by a regional. If you can't see the difference between 9e's concessionary contract (bankruptcy/judge imposed anyways with worse terms/death) vs a concessionary contract because you "might" get more flying, you shouldn't have the lives of 50 plus people in your hands. Stick to traffic watch please.
But you can't deny that you guys were lied/duped into the POS that is the SSP.
Here's an example:
Q: To be eligible for the SSP, you must be a Captain, correct? Does that mean F/Os will not be eligible?
A: No! First Officers are eligible to be hired by Delta as part of the monthly hiring commitment (that is, one third of the overall monthly commitment) outside of the SSP, so First Officers directly stand to benefit from the Bridge Agreement and will not have to wait until all Captains have been considered.
All pilots on the seniority list at the time of ratification will be entitled to an interview under the SSP. To be eligible to attend that interview under the SSP, you must be, or have been, a Captain at Pinnacle (or on leave holding a Captain position) at the time of your selection. As Pinnacle Captains move on to Delta, that will create upgrade opportunities for current First Officers to upgrade to Captain and become eligible for the seniority-based SSP.
As noted above, in addition to the hiring that will take place under the SSP, Delta has reserved the right to hire 1/3 of the monthly commitment from Pinnacle outside of seniority order, so current First Officers will be hired without having to wait to be eligible for the SSP.
"You must be" for Captain is correct.
The last part "or on leave holding a Captain position" is correct.
The middle part "or have been" is a LIE. This was to bait n' hook for downgraded CAs and future downgraded pilots to still think they have a chance.
Here's Delta's wording:
1) hold a Captain position at Pinnacle, or
2) have previously held a Captain position on the Pinnacle, Mesaba or Colgan pilot seniority list and be on an approved leave of absence from Pinnacle
It's clear only current Captains or leave Captains are eligible, not downgraded CAs that are now FOs. So that having been said, if 9E pilots that are not Captains - the FOs - can't even participate in the SSP then what makes anyone think they will hire RJ FOs from 9E outside the SSP? If they wanted to consider FOs they certainly could within the SSP. Take the hint though that through the SSP they only want Captains, then you can be fairly certain no 9E FO will be hired outside the SSP.