Originally Posted by scambo1

Finis,

I don't entirely disagree with you, it is possible that we got pretty much what we could get last go around. I'll never know. I did pretty decent last year...I finally exceeded my previous high 3 years which were around C2k.

However, there are a few issues I take with the C12 process and outcome. It was rushed, it was sold, it included concessions, it accepted bankruptcy pay as a new baseline, etc. But this discussion is not about the past.

To carry the past forward to C15, I have difficulty seeing how we are going to do appreciably better. We lost 3b6 so now we negotiate for our airplanes and help pay for them. I see that as a management trend going forward.

I agree completely with Timbo that the first billion of DAL profit came out of our pockets.