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Old 10-15-2013 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by vspeed
Just read through both...

uals -

Argumentative, outdated falsities and preachy...even calling out an arbitrator as opining...nice..the whole thing reaks of a seniority grab and tries to establish furlough credit based on equity that would be eventually achieved as pilots retire allowing the furloughs to move up (not an increase in capacity, growth or business model / performance of the company) - great expectation...well one day our guys will graduate from furlough and move up as the elder lists retire...the fact that so many were on furlough for 10+ years gives credit to ual being the weaker business model bringing less equity to the table, regardless of how many 'whales' they had...the facts remain the international block hours were higher at CAL than ual. It even goes so far as to try an rewrite the CAL seniority list pre-sli to suit their own argument better - good luck with that!

CALs-

Clear, direct stated fact with a clear goal based on fair and equitable reasoning and charted performance, whereas the ual side contradicted itself saying it would not get into specific derivations but the sinks to a level of argumentative by assuming CAL positions and arguing them out in the opening statement.
I don't think the arbitrators agreed with your opinion. If you re read the UAL opening brief, the UAL proposal is EXACTLY what the arbitrators used.

Its fun to read the old posts and see people defending the 3,000 pilot staple job that never happened.
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