Originally Posted by
ilsbird
I just asked a simple question to which I seek a simple answer. First of all let me make myself clear, I was not part of the TA vote and was brought on board after it passed, so there is no reason to show the frustration I can clearly see in you as I did not mention anything about that TA. Secondly for people who are from the south south, DC is considered North and a bit to the east meaning Northeast. And to answer your final question, nobody is willing to work for free and nobody perhaps will, BUT nobody also wants to work for an airline perhaps like the one your in right now who is a slow sinking ship with no future. If there is a future, and quality of life with a little pay cut that comes with it, I would rather take that then jump on a sinking ship that gives no respect to its pilots.
Originally Posted by
Slats
Do you know those 175s aren't growth? More less they're replacement aircraft for 50 seaters.... Why take a paycut? You're a new hire. ExpressJet has a Dulles base, air Wisc has bases in the "north" ect...
P.S. Where's this quality of life you speak of? Taking concessions isn't improvement in QOL, you're adding to the problem by taking a job with an employer who had the audacity to seek concessions while making profit.
Originally Posted by
RgrMurdock
If you're looking for a place that respects it's pilot you should try harder. Plus there's several airlines that have bases in DC. Maybe you should start there if you're worried about commuting
Originally Posted by
bretthull
Not to mention a place that is respected by other airline pilots. PSA is the new low. He could have done much better.
These are all basically what I would've said. It doesn't matter if you were a part of the TA, the fact that you're willing to go there now knowing full well that they are the new low (acting as a cancer in the regional industry, cutting all the others at the knees) puts you in the same boat as yes voters. Maybe not 100% free but, If you were in new hire class and they came in and said that an even newer contract just passed and you had to take 50% pay cuts, i would bet money that you and a lot of the new hires they are getting would say "yeah that's fine" and stay in class. I don't think you or other PSA guys will be getting much respect in this industry from your peers because you are part of the problem (undercutting and pitting regionals against each other which devalues
OUR profession as a whole and making pilots a less valuable commodity).
Also, when you say
"I would rather take that then jump on a sinking ship that gives no respect to its pilots." you're implying that you think PSA is different and respects its pilots. Does an airline that respects its pilots ask them to take concessions when they are making record profits? I don't think so. They're the new low because they don't respect their pilots. welcome to the airlines.
Just for fun, I don't care where you're from that's just ignorant. The Mason Dixon line runs basically through the Maryland/DC area, making it nowhere near the northeast. The northeast is the NY,MA,NH,VT,CT area. If you live up there, go to air wisconsin.