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Old 10-23-2013 | 01:54 PM
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DL31082
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Originally Posted by Jaxs170
Originally Posted by DL31082
Number one the company and the union agree on the way the pairings are made before we ever bid. I would be a huge cluster if they allowed us to trim pairings.

Number two. I worked at pinnacle where they would mix regular trips and naps in the same line. It sucked. We would get a 4 day trip followed by a nap.

Number 3. Really?? So when they negotiate the next contract the company can say. "See they are ok will 11 days off. Let's make that the minimum number of days off."
Ah, spoken like two people who are not right at the cutoff between being on reserve and holding a line.

The pairings get trimmed anyway, remember that whole split open time deal that happens just before the begining of the month?

We have a box that says allow single days off. Why not a box that says: Allow blended CDO/Non-CDO schedule? You don't want to mix naps, no problem, don't check the box.

I understand the worry about dropping the days off below what we have now, but if only getting 10 or 11 days off gets me a schedule worth 90+ hours vice a 75 hour reserve line, that amounts to about a $1000 difference on 2nd year F/O pay. So yes, having that option is a financial decsion, as well as having the peace of mind that crew scheduling can't jerk me around however they want and tell me things like "Any way we can get around the contract, we will (yes, they said that to me)." Besides, this summer people can, and did (so I heard), drop below min days off to pick up the 150% open time from the trough.
Not on the line between reserve and a line? I'm an oct 8th 2013 hire on the ATL CRJ. Yes I have a line, but in August I didnt. Not to mention that I'm going to the 70/90 in Jan and I will be direct on the reserve/ lineholder line.

Spilt pairing picks are completely different then what your asking for. Pick ups take decreases the amount of open time. Allowing someone to trim a pairing in the bidding process would add time to open time.

Guys that commute would trim all of their trips so that they are always commutable. While that would be awesome it would also throw tons of crappy out and backs into open time that the reserves have to now fly. You also wouldn't be able to bid on the pieces that were trimmed off because they aren't in the bid pack because nobody could predict how someone would trim the pairing.

This whole idea is so unworkable it's amazing. If you think the bidding process takes a long time now it would be forever with your idea.