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Old 10-30-2013, 11:39 AM
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John Carr
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I don't see this thread going well, but I`ll try to help.......

Are you talking about the Apex bionic softshell winds copper, or one of the other models? Seems as if there's a few models of the jacket now.

If you are, its not warm enough for an upper Midwest, or any other cold winter. I carry a long sleeve fleece liner to go underneath. There are other makers of basically the SAME jacket for a cheaper price than what NF charges for theirs. Even at Target.

And NO, I DONT wear mine with my uniform.
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