Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

Well actually, that wasn't my point. I think we benefit and "Old Guard" needs to stay ... they just somehow need to put ALPA first. They need to learn what unity is.

IMHO the "old guard" is a real dichotomy. They are effective, the do good work and at the same time; they are exclusionary and divisive.

I'm a results guy. Based on results, the "old guard" delivers. They would be more effective if they would flex up and be inclusive. They could achieve the same goals more cleanly without the dead bodies (those they have angered and alienated).