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Old 11-08-2013 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by boeingsky
Well I had already talked to someone that had gone through the interview process so I knew somewhat of what to expect. I was more interested in finding out as much as I could about the training program because one pilot I talked to indicated recent changes made. I am sorry if I came across as bashing RAH. After rereading my post I enforced that it was a good company that anyone could be proud to work for. Great company people. The Pilots were all helpful when jump seating. Kick ass equipment. Yes their training had holes and room for improvement but whose docent? Believe me or not about 28 in a class but it is true and same with the wash out rate for my class at least. Yes they only usually hire 20 a class, how ever in class before mine they had a good number of people not show up for training. Got hired by other companies and did not let RAH know. So they hired more ppl taking that in to account. Mabe my class was one in a 100 but I am being truthful and accurate on this. Like i stated before their were changes going on when I was their.
Originally Posted by boeingsky
Second extra sims were not available. and to say that they were is 100% bs. Their were 170 4 sims that were available at FS when i was their. usually 1 a week would go down for routine maintence or would break down for 4-18 hr. Used 23/7 with 1 hour for reboot. They have 8 airlines training on those sims. Germans, ppl from the UK, Mexican airlines not to mention charter company pilots getting trained on these. They can't make enough 170 175 190 sims fast enough. Mabe you guys on the 145 could get more sims. That planes been around longer and does not have the stamped of pilots needed to be trained on them.

I did not BASH RAH. To say so your just string the pot. If i would bash anything it is FS and their training but I am not going to even do that. Some was good, some was bad. (any training program has that) If any one has flown at com air and knows Ed Donagin who was running the 170 training at the time would know exactly what I am talking about.

One thing i hate about online forums is that you spend more time having to defend yourself, your information, and your integrity, your airmanship, and putting things said back in to context, rather than actually getting useful information.

I DO appreciate the the pilots that answer my questions professionalism that one would expect being a fellow airman.
Originally Posted by boeingsky
The people were good to work with. I can't speak about how it was out on the line, but with my experience they weren't A**holes. Management I am taking about.
Originally Posted by boeingsky
The PRIA thing i am still trying to figure out. I have no pink-slips, no failed check rides, no failed orals, or written tests. Every test taken in the airlines was passed with at least 92%. But from what others have told me it will come up as a 121 failure. I have yet to see it for my self

I am not sure how to go about getting my own records from the FAA. I have sent in the paperwork that the airlines would send in but with my own info on it. has not come back yet. trying to call OK city is hopeless.

To your contest about being failed out of training. I wasn't. Like I said their were a few things that I needed brushed up on. Instructor recommended me and my sim partner 1-2 extra sims, came in the next day and in a meeting were were told we were being let go due to the fact that their were no extras available. None of us had our ATP. Mabe it had something to do with that to. IDK. All I know is I learned a lot with that 121 training and am trying to keep moving forward.
Originally Posted by boeingsky
Context correction here.

I stated and I quote

"All experience has been gained up in the north east which is a TAD bit harder than sunny Florida."

In no way did I bash any a 400 hr pilot learning to fly in sunny Florida.

and in no way was i being sarcastic or malicious. And yes i know 1700 hours is squat to you guys. I am no hot shot here, If i was I wouldn't be seeking advice from guys with more expirence such as your self.

However 1700 and an ATP is a bit more than 400 so I would hope their is a little more experience gained in that hr gap. If one was no better a pilot after 1700 hr than they were at 400 hr. Their would be a very serious problem... I think most would agree. LOL

JUST FOR ARGUMENT LETS JUST SAY MABE A LESS EXPERIENCED PILOT WOULD LAND A SAAB AT SAY.... FAIRMONT WV MUNICIPAL AIRPORT 4G7 WITH 3194 FT OF RUNWAY BY ACCIDENT....... WEAR AS A MORE EXPIRENCED PILOT SUCH AS YOURSELF WOULD LAND IT ON THE PROPPER 7800 FT OF RUNWAY AT CLARKSBURGH WV REGIONAL AIRPORT CKB.

***That's a bit snarky, yes, This happens from time to time but that still makes me laugh because I saw it the next morning sitting out on the ramp and helped the mechanics drain the fuel out of the thing. The biggest thing flying out of their at the time was a turbo commander.... until that night. I worked at AC express years ago The only FBO on the field ****

Florida is a great place to learn to fly because its good weather. However the North East (WV to Main) has challenges involved that are not in the southern states. Icing 6 months out of the year, snow, mountainous terrain, Carb fires, runway closures, just getting the dang hanger door open due to 6 foot of snow that slid off the roof in front of the door. lol.

Just saying that flying up here is good experience, builds good judgement skills, and gives a pilot an advantage that the southern states may not have. and that I have had the advantage of training with it from an early age.
Originally Posted by boeingsky
Have not interviewed yet. I will this month tho. The date is set. I don't think I will have a problem at all. If i have the job I will ask to get the books before i leave FL just so as i get a jump start of profiles and limitations. Thanks for the encouragement.
Originally Posted by boeingsky
I appreciate the advice and the best wishes. And I agree about the IFR stuff. Plus the min hr required are close to the 1500 hr mark. If a pilot has close to ATP mins i would hope they would have instrument flying down. The only instrument area that I lack the most on is STARS. Flying as a lifeguard they always give you priority and most of the time vectors for the straight in. To account for this weakness I just took a friends 310 up to new york and spend 3 days flying as many as i could in to the major airports and am more than comfortable now.

I have been getting some info on here about the Saab training and flying for silver. How does the 1900 compare. Harder or easier training?

so Saab vs 1900

From what I deemed from the recruiter they are trying to fill a Saab class right now.
Originally Posted by boeingsky
You probably can make a better call on that one than me lol

Any particular reasons that makes them better?
What i have heard Silver is Delta compared to Great Lakes.

Great Lakes puts a lot of new hires out in Denver last I heard. I need to say on the east cost for a while due to family matters.

Again thanks for the advice and wisdom. : )
Originally Posted by boeingsky
Woot for Night Owls... LOL : D
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