Originally Posted by
Purple Drank
Good point.
What does the company wants from us in any 117 negotiations?
The status quo is that pay/flight time starts concurrently. However, the reg states that flight time starts when the plane moves under its own power--not the tug's.
Perhaps this is a chance to get "door pay"...with the caveat that our flight time doesn't count for duty purposes until the airplane taxis. Is that "latency" significant enough to merit a contractual change? "Latency...." where have we heard that before?

IMO, the "latency" of which you speak, is not the metric which the company is set up to monitor for "on time", pay time or anything else. DAL has always applied paytime=flt time which has always been different than the FAA's "flight time."
The ability to use reroutes as the new short call hasn't changed btw.
In regard to what I see in 117, domestically, what we need is rig improvements as our protection. Door pay is fine, but is not a solution.
BTW, on this stuff, I am not the smartest guy in the room. I'm the dummazz who is responding to a post.