Originally Posted by Purple Drank

Good point.

Changing the subject: What does the company want from us in 117 negotiations?

The status quo is that pay/flight time starts concurrently. However, the reg states that flight time starts when the plane moves under its own power--not the tug's.

Perhaps this is a chance to get "door pay"...with the caveat that our flight time doesn't count for duty purposes until the airplane taxis. Is that "latency" significant enough to merit a contractual change? "Latency...." where have we heard that before?