Sorry Carl that's where you are wrong. You have no idea of what my initial opinion of DPA was. I sent in a card within the first year of its existence and had renewed it. I was never a big fan of TCs but I thought an independent union had a lot of merit.

Then the push onto the fence began with the emails like the Chinese abortion reference. Still I thought, one guy who has some anger issues with ALPA is writing those emails, there is still a lot of positive in an independent union. I was willing to give DPA a pass in spite of his emails.

I started going to this and the DALPA forum and trying to learn more from both sides. On the ALPA forum I saw cheerleaders on both sides but the DPA guys came from an angrier stand point. JF, SC, GK, and others on that board were often very angry in their posts. I found the debate here much more informative. In fact Carl up until maybe 2 months ago I thought you were one of the most reasonable on both sides, however as of late you have moved into the name calling and angry group.

For someone who thought the scourge letter was unprofessional you sure throw out a lot of names at ALPA supporters. I think it hurts the debate rather then helping it. I hope that both sides could put the name calling aside and have a legitimate debate about OUR representation.

I moved off the fence towards DALPA because of the angry undertone I see from a lot of the DPA supporters on the forums. Right or wrong they are the face of DPA for most of us.

As for your PM, I do not despise you I don't even know you. You and I are both individuals typing on keyboards on an anonymous? web board. Things typed get lost and misinterpreted much more so than in person. If we meet in person at some point first beer is on me.