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Old 11-19-2013 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by zoomiezombie
Dunno, but I am suspect of this fire ready aim business.

Saturday (the day it allegedly happened) we get a Go Team email asking for money and that the "content of our site has not been hacked, only where the address takes you" strongly imply malware and says "the ALPA "Special Committee" is clearly responsible" and encourages going off dues check-off and giving money to DPA.

- Definitively states ALPA did it, definitively says Special Committee did it, stongly suggests "malicious content" asks for more money

Sunday (day after) we get another Go Team email asking for money and that "we have defeated the initially successful attempt to redirect our site to a clone site" strongly imply malware again. "The site is secure and functioning properly. Again, our site was not compromised internally." and "The hijacking was simply a redirecting of our URL to a hostile site that asked the reader to support ALPA"

- Definitively states "ALPA stepping up the attack", strongly suggests "malicious content" asks for more money.

Wednesday Go Team email asking for money "DPA is viewing this attack as simply a momentary distraction" and to "take the long view" "especially if fellow Delta Pilots are involved" "there really has been no negative impact on our campaign"

- Now suggests they don't know if it's ALPA or Delta pilots but a post on the other forum says that Caplinger emailed a guy and said it was not DALPA but ALPA "Fine point, but important" and they ask for more money.

Thursday in a status report asking for more money they mention a lawsuit and that they need more money

- no real hacking update just a request for money

Friday in a crew van news "the redirect of our url simply broke the link to our account" and "no data was compromised" and "if it is a Delta Pilot, should we prosecute or forgive or forget?"

Monday (yesterday) claims that someone called Caplinger the exact same day as the last crew van news. DPA then claims that the hack was a social engineering ploy and gained access using personal information while saying you need "considerable technical expertise" to social engineer account access and starts to blame ALPA and the DALPA Special Committee all over again again and then asks for more money.

Summary (DPA) It was really ALPA, then it was really the Special Committee, then it was really ALPA again, but not really DALPA, then it was really a person "claiming to be "pro-ALPA Delta Pilots" and may really have been ALPA again or really the Special Committee again but we don't really know as they only said they were pro-ALPA (but could have been pro-DPA last week or anti-union the week before) and put it all out before we gather any evidence or information but could really do with some money while the FBI figures out if it's a crime to have lost some funds when we already told you the "the redirect of our url simply broke the link to our account" which may have just been an accident as we also told you "The site is secure and functioning properly. Again, our site was not compromised internally" and could we really have some more money again....

I don't know what domain hosting service Caplinger uses, but I'd be asking them for a refund (lack of security) and their help in tracking down the culprit(s) if they really exist and then deciding what to do instead of throwing spaghetti around to see what sticks all the while asking for even more money every other breath and then present the facts.

Would anyone really have noticed if an update hadn't been sent out? Almost no one ever posts on the DPA forums. There's nothing there that isn't emailed to us. It's not like we log in daily to see the latest from the Sol and Jerry show. Much like the new forum it's simply an ALPA bash with zero pro-Delta pilot discussion. It's all negative, anti-ALPA talk. You want in? Show me better. It's easy to criticize, empathize and promise. It's hard to make it happen. I look forward to the "definitive" FBI report that contradicts the rest of these contradictory updates.
Thanks for taking the time to post that account. Most of us have no idea what the DPA sends out to those on their list.

By the DPA's standards, ALPA would have a libel case. Of course ALPA is unlikely to do anything of the sort. But a legal distinction could be made between the DPA, as a Corporate Entity, and the pilots who created it. ALPA has a duty to the pilots, but could sue the DPA (if inclined to waste time on the effort).

Guess this is good experience. Previously I had a poor understanding of what it is like to be a pilot at US Air.