Got it...yes, chip1, I agree with you...

Just to reinforce your point, a great majority of the DAL, UAL, FDX, etc pilots (old geezers!!) making top dollars are also on military retirement...I don't see them turning down those pay rates, retirements, and work rules...that is how out-of-touch some of our guys are.

Point number 2 however,...how about we educate those geezers to those facts? Only through educating those guys, and unity will we get a reasonable CBA next time.