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Old 12-02-2013 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
There is no "victory dance" asserted on my part here--nor did DALPA "win" anything, except perhaps to have the foresight in negotiations--which contrary to the keyboard commando mentality, actually require a lot of work and research on the part of many people--to require a documentable and unimpeachable min PBS staffing formula.

As for the PRP/ROPE issue, I'm not sure what your problem is. All PRPs were put at the bottom of their respective category, and we only agreed to the program in the first place to prevent the company from absolutely melting down due to the snowball effect of massive simultaneous early retirements. In fact that is exactly why I respect our DALPA leadership. They actually made a tough call (again, something never required of posters in forum-land) and ensured that there were a lot of protections in place to prevent the lesser of two evils from being anything other than what it was, which was a stopgap truly emergency procedure in an unprecedented and almost assuredly never-to-be-repeated scenario.

In any case that was 8 years ago. I prefer to focus on the present, while learning from the past. I hate to tell this to you, but if we had a crystal ball, I am certain that on that one issue at least (but perhaps not others) ALPA did the absolute right thing and in fact would do it again (not so much for LOA 51).
Herk,

You ignored my questions. I'm not trying to be a smart a**, but if there's "leverage" that I'm not seeing here, I'd like to hear about it. And then let's use it again and again.

1. Do you honestly think DALPA forced management's hand here?

2. Please tell me what leverage they used?

We'll just have to agree to disagree on the PRP/ROPE issue. If DAL gets behind the ball on keeping up with hiring/attrition, we could be in the same position again. You say it was the "absolute right thing" to do. I say it was the absolute wrong thing as it sets a bad precedent.