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Old 12-05-2013 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by flextodaline
Even worse, is what kind of training do you think the IOE student will get when he's hanging in the straps because of fatigue?? How safe is it for the company to assign a pairing like this for training???

Why would you think that Management cares what IOE trips look like (except for regulatory requirements; maybe an ocean crossing on an Intl. airplane)?

My first leg of MD-11 f/o IOE was OAK-SFO ... First day of MD-11 Capt. IOE was KIX-ICN-CAN-SHA, we arrived at SHA and the new approaches were not in the FMC database. Yeah ... that's a good learning experience

They put someone's rear end in the seat for a revenue leg ... that's all that matters?
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