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Old 12-09-2013 | 05:55 PM
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daldude
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Originally Posted by APCLurker
Not saying our contract has the same force as law or that law doesn't take precedence.

But why does the -able to report in 12/respond in 2 get to survive intact for the company while we are forced to answer within 2, losing our contractual benefit (yes their interpretation meets the law, but does that mean they automatically get to impose it without negotiations or change reference the benefit of our current ability to take 9 hours?). -EDIT: georgetg has good summary of the conflict introduced.- If one doesn't acknowledge until 3 prior, you are still abiding by a clause in our RLA negotiated contract (not both tho) but you can't work the trip (due to far's), and by not working the trip you are meeting the FAR's. They're going to need alot more short call peeps. How about extending long call to accomodate more time to respond along with the 10 hr far? Or any other type of negotiated solution, whether arrived at via mediation or other. I am guessing that the company wanted some negotiations on 117. EDIT: daldude came up with another perfectly viable solution (well, other than dealing with the FAA to get it).




Thats more the meat and potatoes about it. Does someone get to force their will regarding the now contradictory clauses, or will it have to be negotiated. I am hoping that the reason we got that memo is that this issue (or something) was a sticking point in the 117 negotiations and that all reserves are not going to end up on 2 hour short call contact (check's phrase) while on long call because dalpa didn't fight to somehow address our 3 hour benefit that is in our contract.

And I see your confusion in my post after re-reading a couple of times. And some misunderstanding on my own part. I'll blame it on multiple calls for dinner and kids......

On another note: Didn't sd's letter state that a pilot could voluntarily contact the company without breaking rest? If so, why can't one voluntarily acknowledge a legally assigned trip the same way?

Looks like January is shaping up to be a month to avoid dipping your foot in the reserve pool.

We do not want more short calls what we want is the status quo in this case. I believe the key is a waiver using your idea above concerning voluntary acknowledgement. If the FAA will agree, I believe Delta will immediately agree since they receive zero benefit from the 2 hour acknowledgement regarding cost or efficiency.