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Old 12-10-2013 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ProverseYaw
Since you've lost track of the point I attempted to make with my initial post let me reiterate it for you.

1.Regional pilots are underpaid.

(I understand that many see a career as a "regional pilot" as a stepping stone to a more lucrative career. And while I personally have the same intentions the fact is that our duties and responsibilities are so poorly compensated for that I can create a tongue in cheek thread about pay comparison of a professional airline pilot to an entry level fast food employee position and have the economics actually favor the fast food employee!)

2. Overtime pay must be evaluated evenly.

So you credit 105hrs/month. A full time airline pilot with our contract credits 75. You are therefore working 40% more than full time. If a burger flipper worked overtime 40% they'd earn $35,880 per year which makes that career path earn roughly $20,000 more than you the first 5 years. Do you not understand that this imbalance is ridiculous?!

3. As you stated, you do not wish to work these extra hours, but you have been forced to. Wouldn't it be nice to be off and home and extra week per month? How can you defend a system which is built upon cheap labor that has no backbone to stand up and say no to predatory management tactics that have you leaving family and friends 20% more than you used to be while making a salary equivalent to a fast food employee? I don't understand if I am not making myself clear, or you are just not reading what I am saying, but for once and for all you are not paid enough for the educational requirements, duties, responsibilities, and time away from home that are being forced upon you. If you realize and agree with that then I cannot understand how you could possible submit an opposing argument to contradict these facts!


4. It is a result of the current state of our entry level positions to our career which is hindering pilot hiring and therefore creating a shortage of qualified applicants.

This is essentially the entire point of my thread. I used my current airline's contract to reinforce my arguments, but the same can be made for nearly any airline at the "regional" level. Although we fly thousands of passengers coast to coast daily, we've been forced to believe that we deserve less and should be happy with the opportunity to fly the flights we have. We have been led by various means to approve contracts that are financially equivalent to those which fast food employees are making attempts to achieve. If that realization does not upset you then I would like to apologize on your behalf to your high school economics teacher who has so cleared fail to give you a basic understanding of your labor's value.
I don't think there are any regional pilots, especially FO's that would disagree. I try to look at the brighter side of things, make as much as I can at the regional level, and then move on. If you have some great idea to raise wages then I'm all ears but so far I've only heard b****ing and moaning and no solutions. I was sickened at ALPA during our last "lunch" where all they talked about was some Dubai customs BS and other things that have no effect on us. I'd say the first step is to set a floor level of pay in this race to the bottom. If ALPA isn't on board then maybe it's time to form a union that solely represents regional pilots. As far as your economics class comment goes, lighten up!! Remember that Delta has CRJ-900 rates in their contract. Mind you that every pilot at 9E would be making over 6 figures at that rate. So the economics are simple. If there are people willing to work for dirt wages then pay them dirt. And if their union won't put a stop to it then better yet.
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